so i just saw a thread on doa about the new dollmore limited edition lawrence (nsfw is how i'll label this as a warning). frankly, i'm astounded. from the op on, most of the posts i managed to get through are flat out outrage or statements of offense. really...i think i'm more offended by the posts than by the pictures they're referring to! in fact, i'm not offended by the pictures. they label him as a film noir themed doll, he has a bloody bullet hole in the center of his forehead, and he has sewn up lips. however, none of that is what they are offended about. no no, they're offended by the pictures and what they depict around him.
why do the posts offend me more than doll bodies that are supposedly all female and supposedly depicting dead bodies? because it went from "i'm offended" to "OMG RAPE AND TORTURE AND VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN!!!!" there was one person in what i read before closing the thread in disgust that pointed out the fact that there could be a cultural difference and one or two others who pointed out that kids now days are exposed to worse in media at a younger age. all of them got shut out and basically told that they are wrong. one person posed the question to everyone: what if it was a female doll with male bodies? she was pretty much, imo, screamed at by the person who started the thread.
don't get me wrong, the overly offended people have good points about women who have been abused seeing the pictures and what their reactions might be, or that it might be disturbing for younger children (if they understand). but i don't like how everyone jumped to rape and torture. i mean, what about him being a vengeful spirit? or the fact that it's film noir based? have they even watched any true film noir? it's not like this is super explicit with blood everywhere or anything super gory. in all honesty, there's dolls and depictions on doa - a 13 and over site - that i think are much gorier or explicit than these pictures.
it's not like this is ero guro. hell, quite a few commercials on tv for movies depict more graphic violence and kids see those. whatever. i suppose i'm a cold and heartless person for not seeing the pictures as graphic depictions of sexual and physical violence towards women. i suppose i'm horrible because i see them more as a form of art in keeping with the theme they decided on for the doll. *eye roll*
October 19, 2008
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Actually there is a huge difference in culture, and how things are perceived. "Violence" over there is kind of like "step back", there are lots of games from the U.S. and other countries that won't fly in "Asia" because of violence. Honestly I didn't get the whole rape thing either.
And yes it would have been totally okay if it was a woman. Believe me the fact that to most women who like Yaoi, think it's okay to objectify a man but Yuri and homosexuality isn't okay it's like, "Wut? They're exactly the same thing.
Now onto the doll itself. IT'S GOT A BULLET HOLE IN ITS HEAD IN THE LITTLE PICTURE BEFORE YOU CLICK. What were people expecting, SUNSINE AND LOLIPOP FARTS?! Seriously people, honestly I thought it was going to be a whole lot worse than what it ended up being.Really I ended up not caring because most people in that thread were "uhhh" to me.
Honestly I don't give a rats ass if a little kid sees it. I'm not going to parent someones kids just because their parents are too lazy to do it themselves. And I'm very pissed off about the people writing dollmore saying that it's too violent. Leave Dollmore alone.
I don't really see a problem with the doll, I'm starting to think I'm like one of those people who are desensitized to violence, that or I've stopped caring. I mean I saw the word "Noir" in it. I knew it was going to be unpleasant. Maybe because I love the "Chibi Noir" or Junko Mizuno.
White people as a whole need to stop like getting offended at dumb things. Because most of those people who are like "ZOMG RAPE" uhh. There is a huge difference in general concern, truly being offended and just liking to be offended.
Read this:
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/28/101-being-offended/
I believe in this situation what is written here is true.
haha! awesome link! and so so very sadly true...
anyway...i was just thinking about the cultural difference and, well, i think that the best way to point it out would be horror movies. american/western horror has turned into gore over the past few decades and has moved away from being true horror. asian horror movies are truely horror imo. they aren't overly bloody or violent, but are more about the suspense aspect. and, really, the aesthetic of how this doll is handled in the same way. if it was an american/western company that had put him out, there would have been more blood in the faceup and the bodies would have really been mangled and there would have been blood and gore everywhere. and now i'm rambling thanks to too much candy corn...yay candy corn! :D
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